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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 2:51 pm    Post subject: Stress and SP's
 
For me there seems a distinct link between periods where I am under alot of stress be it from work or personal stuff and increased discomfort in my chest, often resulting in slight leaks bubbling etc - which I can only assume to be small collapses that are held up because of the surgery and are gradually absorbed.

Is this something others have experienced ?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 3:10 pm    Post subject:
 
when i am under a lot of sress either from work or personel stuff i to have quite a bit of dicomfort in my chest and also my side where they had inserted the tube when i had my SP`s 2 years ago...i had an x-ray on February 28th and i now have to wait until April 19th to see the specialist...there are times when i am under stress and the pain is is really bad...it will usually last into the next day...Keep up the good work,Rossoe
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 10:16 pm    Post subject:
 
Well it was my first day in my new job, and guess what... you know what I'm gonna say... I had chest pain all day on my left side. This is very unusual for me and I haven't had any pains like this for a while now, I can only link it to nerves and stress in this case as I had done nothing different to my normal day apart from going to a new office, new boss etc.

Thinking back I have had the pain when I was anxious before, I seem to get nervous/stressed easily. However when in a comfortable environment like the same job for last 2 years I'm fine, turn to a new environment and then the nerves turn on. Weird, huh.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 5:18 am    Post subject:
 
I had a severely stressful moment at work. I work at a startup so it's always crunch time and I usually work well under the stress. But some tasks weren't going well and there was a fairly painful meeting. I could feel the stress balling up in my stomach. Afterwards I had to do some concious belly breathing to try to ward it away. The next evening is when I had my pneumo. It couldn't have been at a worse moment, work-wise. I asked the doctors if stress could have been a factor but none of them thought so. I wonder if even if it wasn't the cause, it was maybe the trigger.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:13 pm    Post subject: Stress
 
I agree with everyone else here in that I do believe that Stress can be a major contributing factor. In September 05 I can recall that particular morning was very stressful for me. My husband was in having knee surgery when the collapse actually took place and our heat pump had gone out just days before, etc...... Simply put, there was a lot going on at that particular time in my life!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 7:40 am    Post subject:
 
I'll add my scientific theory here, although cautiously. Stress induces the body to go into a general catabolic state, resulting in the breakdown of various tissues. We know what implications this may have for one of the important structural tissues of the lung membranes -- elastin. Since SP patients already are pre-disposed to tissue abnormalities of the lungs, the release of catabolic hormones can only compound the risk of tissue breakdown and subsequent inefficiency at tissue repair due in part to reduced efficiency of amino acid absorption. Such hormones include, but are not limited to, cortisol, glucocorticoid, epinephrine, and glucagon.

No dietary regimen can fully prevent the induction of a catabolic state in the body under conditions of mental stress. My recommendation would be to reduce stress first by regulating sleep patterns and rest periods, and increase dietary protein if you know you are going to be "burning the midnight oil" so to speak.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 10:12 am    Post subject:
 
I would have to agree - if ever I get stressed at work or upset then my lung hurts...could almost set a clock by it!

I agree with all that has been written here.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:41 pm    Post subject: Stress
 
I definately agree that stress induces lung aggrivation. For me it is also unfocussed or incorrect heavy lifting, rapid movement (ie. throwing a ball, drumming), bad posture, dehydration and particularly - cold weather which induces such lung pain that it has helped cause lung collapses on both sides.

I'm about to have my second pluerodesis in about a month and am not really looking forward to it. It will be the left lung this time - 12 yers after the right lung.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:56 pm    Post subject: To jsw
 
For some reason I have found many Doctors and others of the medical profession to blatently disregard almost anything I say about my lung pain. I am positive that stress causes my lungs to bubble and even have a pnuemothorax. My fourth major (35%) lung collapse happenned during my first driving test. Whilst trying to change gears and sweating with fear on a steep incline my left lung collapsed (first collapse for the left side). I was in severe pain and was breathing heavily, the driving tester asked if I was OK (I tried to push through without letting on) and I simply said "My lung has collapsed" so we drove straight back to the station and I went off to hostpital.

I have finally found a Doctor who is also a counsellor and has alternative leanings (acupuncture and homeopathy) aswell. He is very understanding which is vital to my health and has found me the top surgeon in Sydney Australia to do a pluerodesis on my left lung. It's all well and good to be positive about our condition but it is also vital to have the appropriate respect and understanding from those whos job it is to help us.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 1:01 pm    Post subject:
 
Totally agree with that - I hate that smirky look a lot of dr's get when you tell them what you think triggers your SPs or pain - they clearly think you're a hypochondriac Shocked and obviously feel that you should be the last person to take any interest in your own medical condition and should leave it to the experts. Given that we know so little about SPs you'd think they'd be glad of the input. At least on sites like this one you know others will take what you have to say seriously and actually try and help
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:03 pm    Post subject:
 
Recently I have been going through a great amount of stress (First SP was june06) and I confirm stress is associated with our chest pains. Never had any pain until this stress came up, sharp stinging pains on the left base of the lung. I agree with what you said about the Dr.s lack of interest in SP patients, but I think its most probably due to the limited data and true facts of the cause of SP's.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:18 am    Post subject: It's most definitely related to stress
 
I'm just getting my chest tube taken out from my first SP tomorrow, and for me it couldn't have happened at a more stressful time. Just like the others who posted here, however, when I asked doctors if it could be related to stress (it happened right at a peak in my stress level at work and I believe at the exact same time as the onset of a panic attack), they shrug their shoulders, say I fit the bill (tall and thin male), and don't offer any other opinion on the matter. So I was feeling a little out on my own until I did some googling and came across this site. Now at least I feel confident that it was because of the stress that day and I'm definitely more concerned that it will happen again in the future if I don't take the necessary precautions to prevent it.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 6:28 am    Post subject:
 
Hi Nystul and others,

I too have felt chest pains with stress and I"ve been convinced that my SPs happen in times of stress. But I've also had them when cooking dinner, knitting, and otherwise non-stressful times.

So, while I do think stress doesn't help, I don't think it's the whole story. We're probably pre-disposed to SPs and maybe sometimes extreme stress triggers them? But if they're going to collapse, they probably will, stress or no stress.

But it is frustrating to have doctors completely dismiss what you're feeling.

Hope everyone is feeling okay and stress free these days!
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 10:18 am    Post subject: stress
 
Hi to you all, I agree also that stress can be a massive factor, even though i`m new to all this sp stuff, only just having my first op october 06, It was a stressfull day for me, as we have been renting our property for 4 yrs & the realestate & the owners (whom i had never met before) were comming for an inspection for the first time. I was deffinetly stressed that morning cleaning up, as i like to have everything just right.! i never did get to meet the owners as my lung collapsed 50% just after the realestate people left.so i was off to hospital.the owners let themselves in apparently!! great sight by the way, its so good to know there are others that understand what it feels like. from kez.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 9:24 pm    Post subject: stress survey
 
I've had 5 SPs in 3.5 years. And thinking back on it, they usually came on during what I would consider stressful experiences. Several of them occurred during visits with family members. I have a very energetic, loud family and I know I feel a certain amount of anxiety when we meet up for holidays or get togethers. In fact, my cousin is convinced it's him that is causing them. The first one, while out for my cousin's birthday, was shortly before I moved to another state and returned to college. I was definitely stressed, I hadn't even found a place to live yet. Another occurred just after I finished my thesis, right before graduation. The next one happened the day after Thanksgiving and the last right before new years while still recovering from the last. I did have one happen in my sleep though . . .

Perhaps site admins could put together some survey questions regarding stress levels and lifestyles at the time SPs occur?
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